I've been thinking about how to get the right people into the right rooms like it's my job (and I guess it kind of is).
That's because an invitation signals:
- You’ve got something I want to share space with.
- I value your perspective.
- I want you in my presence.
- I know you’re going to bring something to the “party” that will appreciably improve the experience for everyone involved.
My invitation obsession does NOT stem from a deep, abiding love of social hosting (with infinite sorries to my book club, I'd rather guzzle shards of glass), but because being asked to show up somewhere important is something of extraordinary value.
And: a curated list of "the right people" is materially more consequential than whatever comes from an open cattle call.
Hot take incoming...
This quality-over-quantity-ness is true of:
One of the questions I field on a near-daily basis (second only to “what microphone should I buy?”...hit reply and I’ll send my recos) is:
“How do I get invited onto more podcasts?”
And I get the motivation behind the question. I mean, all the value a podcast brings (visibility, relationship-building, sexy clips for your social feeds) with none of the “hassle” of having to carry a whole show of your own.
But the answer is almost never the one people are expecting:
The best way to get invited onto podcasts (aside from being a celebrity fending off a minor scandal) is to host one of your own.
My friend Alex Sanfilippo, founder of PodMatch, shared with me a statistic that made my eyes bulge out of my head like a Looney Toons character:
There are ~47 people seeking podcast guest opportunities for every one podcast host. That's 1 podcast host for every FORTY-SEVEN hopeful podcast guests.
Which helps explain why podcast guesting is now the white-hot center of a burgeoning cottage industry of paid placement services.
These magical conversations between podcast host and guest routinely lead to:
- Partnerships
- Clients
- Referrals
- Speaking engagement invitations (there’s that word again…)
- Business development opportunities
- And to quote the advertising cliche: much, much more...
You can hear (and SEE hello, video podcast debut) all about it in this week’s episode of my podcast, Talking the Talk: How Podcast Conversations Turn Into Opportunities (with Greg Wasserman of RSS.com).
But if you’re a podcaster staring down your double-digit download numbers with some degree of existential concern, I offer this for your consideration:
Twenty downloads from the right audience can be worth infinitely more than twenty thousand from the wrong one.
Just about anyone can make their way into the biggest rooms. It takes strategy, talent, and intention to get into the right rooms.
*Speaking of: if you’re new here, hi! Welcome. You’re in excellent company–I know bc I curated the list myself!